Recreation centers

the reality is that Spruce Pool serves fewer swimmers in the community than other city pools

In 2027, onetime dollars from the general fund will fund Spruce Pool operations through the end of the year.

having excellent outside pools might also help people not build private pools

the 2027 recommended budget reduces the child watch program at the community center

To help solve this problem in the simplest way possible, I propose the creation of a senior pass

These programs work best for facilities such as recreation centers that are used by large and diverse populations

make way for the improvements um that we're looking at for the North Boulder Recreation Center

as you note, our South Boulder Recreation Center, our North Boulder Recreation Center

Recreation Center replacement, North Boulder Recreation Center, our public safety building.

is it possible to get money to uh help these pools run by either the health equity fund or the sugar sweetened beverage um tax?

There is also the elimination of child watch services at East Boulder Community Center.

there is with increasing development in Boulder, an increasing need for open, accessible public pools.

I'm here to talk about spruce pool funding, and I would like to invite my fellow swimmers

We need Spruce Pool because it serves the social, emotional, and physical needs of our aging population.

we would be able to update our rec centers and um create a public safety building

as in the only way you're going to get your pool is if you say yes to this ballot measure

I would like to add a lap pool and a children's aquatic area as opposed to just the general what do we have aquatic?

User fees are obviously reduced when the pools or rec centers are not open.

If you guys choose to ignore us and not include binding language protecting our existing amenities

If the city eventually has to begin closing or reducing services, especially at these places that voters say they really care about like like recreation centers

North Boulder Recreation Center. Here's where we're going to put some resources

the bond could fund recreation centers, give residents of all ages the opportunity to exercise

eligible individuals also get a free, membership pass to the three recreation centers, the two outdoor pools, and the Boulder Reservoir.

On March 9th, staff provided an update on city facilities funding needs to include recreation centers.

who are talking about needing pools and updated rec centers

are you going to mention the South Boulder Rec Center and the North Boulder Rec Center in the ballot measure polling

I would like to talk about the possible closure

I feel closing the pool at South Boulder rec center would be going against your own goals

I'm firmly against taking away the pool from the South Boulder Rec Center

can't have another South Boulder Rec Center here, we don't need it here, we need it South Boulder

to look across the system at all three recreation centers to understand how they were meeting community needs

folks could buy a recreation center specific pass

I do not agree with expanding services at the North Boulder Rec Center in terms of adding more pools

I don't want to compromise things like the South Boulder Rec Center and our streets and some of the other things.

Please fund and maintain the core amenities at South Boulder Rec Center, including a pool and gym.

There is also no clear option to support equivalent core amenities at rec centers generally.

That's keeping core amenities, including a pool and gym, not a fieldhouse, at the South Boulder Rec Center.

South Boulder Recreation Center is a vibrant, modern community hub that includes a pool and a gymnasium.

The current South Boulder Rec Center is home to the smallest lap pool in our system is six lanes.

As an example, the North Boulder Recreation Center weight room is just 3,000 square feet.

South Boulder Rec Center is a place that kids can walk to

Why can't we have two good rec centers in our own neighborhood

neighborhood that includes access to an awesome Rec Center with a pool, gym and all the great other features

our public recreation centers are critical to achieving a community where every member's health and well-being

So how can building new pools be considered environmentally sustainable in one location, but removing them is considered environmentally beneficial in another location?

And then other amenities where it could be considered on an individual center basis.

possible consolidation of rec centers and making people drive to get to other locations.

About 50 or 60 people were here in support of a lap pool and gym at South Boulder Rec Center that night.

as someone who cares deeply about keeping our core amenities, you know, the pool, gym, and the South Boulder Rec Center.

south boulder rec center, east boulder, all the rec centers, everything else

So, if you expand the pool or expand its use, yes, it could be used to fund operations.

enough to pay for an operating cost of a new pool at the rec center?

How does taking away the pool and gym at the South Boulder Rec Center support that goal?

The South Boulder Rec Center is a lot more than just a gym.

The 25-yard lap pool was paved over. The city has lost four pools.

You know, we can't even rebuild our South Boulder Rec Center.

We're not thinking the South Boulder Rec Center, we're not going to do this then either.

In a way, like, you know, I'm in South Boulder, and the South Boulder people are pushing hard for a new rec center.

the rec centers are pretty limited in their ability to meet competitive aquatic needs and high school needs.

We know from that, and I think someone quoted earlier, our rec centers are really challenged in meeting aquatic needs for our community.

my hope is that you're able to see that the South Boulder Rec Center is a true asset to the community

Boulder residents are upset that replacing the South Boulder Rec Center with a no pool facility is even on the table

Our pool is the reasons thousands of people are signing the rec center petition.

No issue at South is so great that the entire building must be torn down

I ask that the council explicitly refer to the 15minute concept as part of its vision for rebuilding the South Border Recreation Center

many BBSD schools do not have recreation centers nearby

A water feature at South Boulder Wreck is absolutely no substitute for a pool.

Have you visited a recreation center? How was it?

the South Boulder Recreation Center has been compromised, underutilized, and scheduled for closure.

We launched a petition 3 weeks ago concerning the South Boulder Rec Center.

another rec center, amenities, those types of things

Like, if we're talking about developed parkland in terms of a new rec center, a new swimming pool, pickleball courts

you have to be, like, a citizen of Boulder to get into the rec centers at a cheap pass

before plans for East Boulder Rec Center are finished

the community community is absolutely not okay with losing our lap pool at the South Boulder Rec Center.

I'm here to talk about our rec centers.

public uh investment in um, uh, rec centers and, you know, what might be needed for a school

And then if we're talking about things like rec centers,

In particular, since we're talking about the swimming and the lab pool, I just want to remind the council members

if and when the South Boulder Community Center um is either rebuilt that there won't be a lap pool

it doesn't plan for the South Boulder Rec Center being redone completely

it makes sense to accommodate that use next to an existing recreation center.

Did you say the East Boulder sub community plan or the East Boulder Community Park site?

I'm here on behalf of my family and the South Boulder community to advocate for the future of the South Boulder Recreation Center

a fully functioning recreation center, with the top priorities being a lap pool, weights, cardio classes, and a gym

that South Boulder Rec Center, whenever it is built, and whenever it is funded

Think about the East Boulder Community Center. Is it a swimming pool? Is it a senior center?

And so, like, a really great option for them is to get the rec center membership

This is really the community rooms. At the different recreation centers that are bookable.

three main rec centers, they're all really great community hubs, and over the last 50 years

So, the great thing about the North Boulder Recreation Center is it's still on the skip line

that's why you're seeing the fees increasing at rec centers

Our standard rec center membership for the three rec centers is not an increase.

we're keeping these flat for a standard recreation center membership

talking about the South Boulder Rec Center, that's disruptive, isn't it?

How are people going to pay more at the rec centers

East really has been, assessed for what future needs we're trying to fund

Given the recent need for $2 million in emergency expenditure on the South Boulder Rec Center

where the South Boulder Recreation Center is right now, and I know that's going through a lot of changes, that's an ideal mobility hub.

My only concern is the monthly rate going up for the rec centers, because that's pretty drastic.

if you have an active recreation center membership, and you purchase an outdoor pool pass, you'll get 15% off

I'm the Recreation Manager, so I oversee, the rec centers, aquatics and health and wellness.

we know all of our rec centers need work. Our public safety building needs work.

recreation center renovations and replacements, snow and ice response, parks and playground refurbishments

demand for services at the Rec. Centers, at the libraries, by the police, by the fire

When are we gonna get into a software recreation center problem with that pool where it's nearing the end of its lifespan.

or you could actually lump it in with the Rec. Centers.

I'm also a member of the executive group that is reimagine South Boulder Rec Center.

It's time to look at it again so and figure out the best way to make sure that those that can pay are paying

that the business model at the Rec centers is going to be looked at.

we are very reliant on our memberships for revenue at the recreation centers.

We provide every everything from fitness, sports entertainment. We're a a full service, what we call an athletic country club.

A lot of aquatics. Facilities bring in revenue through fees. None of them that we found are enterprises

because you need to take water out the pool, build scaffolding, to install fans, to paint the whole area

So there was a request for bid submitted for repair work at the South Boulder Rec Center.

But is there a reason that that the South Boulder Rec center isn't on these slides

Really, I just definitely want to do future recreation centers.

So I get to help provide the services at the recreation centers. And so the North Boulder Rec center on this side of town

I think one time we we listen to like an hour and a half of of testimony about about the Rec center.

And, you know, recreation centers and other items like that in the city's portfolio

projects relating to um first uh rec centers which is about 35% of of the uh uh entire list

Recreation centers. Have increased visitation 20 plus percent

And the south wall Rec center is a wonderful facility.

Um, our transit um system, we're going to do an update with the county this year.

So the 5 amenities that really clearly stood out as must haves were a weight room, cardio and exercise classrooms, a lap pool, and a double wide gym.

as I'm coming again as a member of the reimagined South Boulder Rec Center Committee and wanted to share

And then, finally, the purple is obviously the rec centers. You've heard a ton about that.

and there's not enough services in the South Boulder Rec Center and Now, CU South is just booming ahead.

the difference with the recreation centers is that we're not talking to 3, 5, 10, even 20 million

But I don't think the other rec centers can really take on all the people who would be driving, plus all the pollution

the Rec. Center is essential for that. I see that with seniors at the Rec. Center as well.

The other option would be the east boulder rec center.

for some reason rec centers are in on my mind. Right?

Senior Rec Center West Senior Center then I can't even use it it needs to be Central

we're underfunded for the police for the fire for libraries for our South Boulder Rec Center which we can't even rebuild

we're saying we don't have enough money for a South Boulder Rec Center

a plan to demolish the South Boulder Rec center may not include building a new pool

You will see that the membership does include access to all 3 recreation centers

My primary issue is aquatics, though we use the rec centers for a variety of things.

the South Boulder rec center with its exercise equipment basketball gyms and Community lap swimming is the heart of Table Mesa

at the SBC there's a Vibrant Community feel and strong friendships that have developed solely because of this facility

our group fundamentally believes that having a full service Rec Center in South Boulder is a pivotal part of a healthy and dynamic Boulder Community

the services that are rec centers um provide for them are incredibly important um and so we are working with them

we have had growth across the board with everywhere except for recreation centers based on current trends and visitation

we have on the agenda tonight the future of recreation center so have more opportunity to talk about

we will have less rec centers less police less ability to take care of the people

We do often get questions about our indoor pools and how we prioritize use from different user groups for the pools.

recreation facilities are probably where we have the most direct connections, over 60,000 visits per year.

so the board recently adopted a new rule that allows pulling of time during public hearings

the ultimate uh status of the South bould D Center

our recreation centers that folks have been asking us about

I'm here tonight to ask you not to close the South Center.

And I was curious as to why these funds are not allocated to the current infrastructure.

My comments are specifically regarding statements about the future of the Rec. Centers and the end of South Bowler recreation centers, life cycle.

engagement efforts um that have just begun um with the future of rec centers

So the before and afters for folks in the hill is the Rec. Center the library.

That would be something that we'd have to discuss and figure out internally is where those funds would come from

to do kind of what's called the future of rec centers assessment

I didn't see any mention of the South Boulder Recreation Center

There isn't even a Rec center in East Boulder.

I won't go to the North Boulder Rec Center anymore. And this is where I'm paying my tax dollars.

you'll hear a lot more about the future of Rec Center's project coming next month.

So as we get into a feasibility study and look at that more in depth, we'll be able to see if it's if it is feasible

maybe you know, maybe there's a different way to look at it like a new tennis and aquatic facility

But since there is in the downtown business district. recreation centers are incredibly expensive to Friday.

Why doesn't our community know that when you're in a freaking Rec center you can't have a gun in there

Where do you find that inflation hits park hits park and rack. The most. Yeah, sure.

as East Boulder Recreation Center. Where we have a focus and really good funding to do the renovation up to 45 million

we're going to see that in the rec centers we saw that in other areas as as we move move forward

to talk about aquatics. And and what's happening from a user group standpoint and and demand for pool usage.

We do have a pro shop at ease of the Rec. Centers, where we do sell some items.

we've been looking into management options in partnership with parks and recreation, and also Northern water as a co-manager of the reservoir.

there were acts across the city with recreation centers and traffic signals and traffic accidents, and

Power was restored to the East Boulder Community Center late Sunday evening and the facility reopened Monday morning.

If we make a new part or rec center we have to maintain.

will maintain parks and rec centers innovative bike security locking options

how we are driving use of regional parks and rec centers.

So all of our recreation centers have solar. any low hanging fruit for any conservation we have achieved.

and I don't want my wreck hour centers cut. So do something about it.

had to cut back services like the hours of the Rec. Centers and a lot of public services.

New library of it rec centers whatever should all involve artists to think about how they could use community space

We will very much be looking at what should be close to home opportunities that people can just walk or bike to with their neighborhood recreation center.

we have photovoltaic and solar thermal at our recreation centers

the 2 in April would be at an indoor recreation center.

as well as our um rec centers is is another way that we can potentially meet those folks

It feels like a recreation center. It's really exciting.

what you'll learn is we go through the recreation centers project that the building envelope is where you get your efficiency

you're aware of rec centers in the end. Aquatics and some other facilities that we are looking at some big dollar renovations.

Parks and Recreation staff kept the East Boulder Recreation Center open maintained and continuously addressed issues as they arosed

which could be more uh work on the recreation centers and the development of the proposed Eastern City Campus

the three Recreations the three recreation centers make up a third of our annual energy consumption

We are also aware that this the same woman was involved in a disturbance inside the North Boulder Recreation Center prior to the incident.

Lift weights 10 times this month alone at the various rec centres and make use of the fitness court

Scott Carpenter lap pool is our only 50 m um lap pool

I'd like to know what the Delta is when we go renovate our rec center

The Pottery lab is an early recreation facility. When it was retired at a fire station

The North and South Boulder recreation centers were built with funding from a cigarette at size tax that was approved by both the voters

lap swimming capacity must be expanded before taking the limited existing facilities offline for re renovation

we are struggling mainly due to pressure on pool space at City facilit here are some specific examples

Boulder parks and wreck perhaps just pursuant to its regulations divides all of the people who use the rec centers into two categories

We intend to write the Rfp. In a way that asks the respondents to scope and phase the project and minimize pool closures.

The same things are not true about the South Boulder Recreation Center

the plan to renovate the recreation centers as it stands today 8 years later will leave swim teams

closing East Boulder um Community Center for renovations for an estimated 18 months reducing the available lanes

to try and reduce the amount of the costs of service access for rec centers

so the South Boulder Rec Center is the facility master plan calls out and as we are aware

continued planning design and construction costs for renovations and retrofits needed at the East Boulder Community Center

Now, it looks like East Boulder Rec center needs a 50, 7 million dollars getting.

said that they were interested in discussions about how they could get more full time in the facilities

of the workforce centers are in the Incorporated parts of the county um so so we're talking pretty pretty small compared to us

Staffing our rec centers you know keeping our pay structure competitive for our employees

And I'm also curious as to why we don't see South Boulder Rec Center on there

It seems like the Rec. Centers are a big enough topic that we, if we could have 2 people on that one

South Boulder Rec Center. You know the rec centers needing infrastructure. Let the developer pay.

to enhance Recreation programming at several of the recreation centers

HVAC system repairs leak repairs at the recreation centers and continued Rehabilitation

like in our recreation centers and our fire stations and other buildings that support critical services

our recreation centers are three of our top four producers of carbon emissions

an example of this is found really in our recreation centers so our East Boulder Community Center is at that inflection point

the community who values our rec center so much and it's used across the board with all incomes

figure out uh the best approach to our recreation centers

we have three recreation centers that need to be addressed in some format two fire stations

repurpose and perhaps folks have taken that to mean that we are doing something away we're doing away with the building

the reports of the demise of the South Boulder Rec Center are greatly exaggerated that it's not what is happening

we've been receiving a number of emails with regarding South Boulder rec center and rumors of its imminent closure

we had provided pretty free and clear access through our requity Health Equity program access to the recreation centers

learning from the experience at the library at our recreation centers we have made some operational changes to minimize both opportunities

It depends at our indoor facilities. They're about 10% of our 10% or less of our users

So our actual hours of operations and available hours has decreased.

So if you look at a recreation center, you have the fully access to get inside the center itself.

It was really streamlining it for the golden reservoir and the outdoor pools to be consistent with our 3 recreation centers

to help provide financial assistance for access into our recreation centers

The major renovation of the North Walter Recreation center in 2,001. Similarly, right. So for for all 3 buildings we're talking tens of millions of dollars.

Do we start to look at these as a system and the willingness to have maybe some centralized recreation access.

How do we start to think about recreations as the recreation centers as system versus individuals?

I just don't want people to forget about our rec centers that's all I was really saying

I've been getting a lot of emails how the Louisville Rec Center is so much better than ours

1 648 folks who are eligible for a free Rec Center membership

officials decided that just one instance of meth smoking inside the rec center doesn't warrant testing this is false

there are two police reports of drug use on 1223 at both the East Boulder rec center and the boulder homeless shelter

we were conducting Sheltering operations at the East Boulder rec center and Community Center

East Border Rec Center, opening at six Am. Versus the previous five, thirty Am.

the East Boulder Community Center and the North Boulder Recreation Center

there are courts at the local recreation centers and public schools but they are often not accessible

if you look at public rec centers you know pickleball has gotten really popular

I'd also mentioned the recreation centers have come up that's uh something.

people are having a hard time affording the um the cost of the uh community centers

financial aid visitations and overall facility use will allow us to make sure that the rec centers are being optimized

but libraries rec centers um please fire all the infrastructure needed

the south boulder rec center has been underutilized for years now it was closed for a long time during coven

because i know that we are all concerned about staff shortages in general

disappointed that spruce pool will not open this summer i want to make sure the entire city council is fully aware of the long-term consequences

but guess what there's nobody to fund the rec centers and then we've got all these people from boulder

we're going to flood more people into the rec centers that we have

south boulder recreation center is quickly approaching the end of its useful life

looking at what it costs to operate each of the recreation centers and what full cost recovery would be

i'm also gonna ask you to talk about the lewisville rec center and how much do they

Boulder parks and recreation is honoring lewisville's Recreation Center passes at its three recreation centers

we were able to open South Boulder Rec Center very quickly for evacuees

the three polls use up something like 80 percent of the city's energy

generally speaking water takes a lot of energy to heat and cool and so you know how we're managing our pools

when we redo a recreation center or enhance a pool

Gun Barrel has no public Recreation Center no public swimming pool no main library branch

renovation of East Boulder rec center and then acquisition of street light system

a recreation center is much harder to phase out it it would have a bigger impact on the community

east boulder rec center um retrofit and renovation would it be possible to do those in phases

here included we had the rec center renovations and i will note we do have a special climate category

you mentioned libraries REC centers are you know site at the

properly celebrating two recently completed amazing projects uh we're really looking forward to the full opening

Access to summer camps rec centers etc for low income is.

whether we can have either the rec center or hotels available for people

obviously there'll be a phase reopening of facilities and I think that Parks and Rec has been doing a great job this summer

what we do not have in Gun Barrel are amenities that you find in downtown Boulder such as Library Rec Center

that was to enable the the rec center to start opening up and using that facility

you are correct that there are a number of people that would use our libraries that cannot use them right now or rec centers

allows us to get east boulder rec center ready to receive visitors but also preserve that function

we um own the east folder rec center and um bhp owns mount calvary

as we know we haven't been able to operate our recreation centers our camps things like that

THE REC CENTERS AND POOLS WILL BE LIMITED THOUGH BANNED AS WERE ABLE TO DO.

A REC CENTERS AND POOLS AS WELL AS A TROLL CENTERS ARE CLOSED

COMMUNITY FACILITIES INCLUDE SAGE ALL CENTERS LIBRARY MUNICIPAL COURT AND THE RECREATION CENTER'S.

rec centers are going to be a difficult decision to open them because of the fact that there's so much equipment

the libraries the age well centers and the rec centers will remain closed

worked closely with Parks and Recreation to understand what the closures look like um in their recreation centers and their programs

the rec center is being looked at and I would say the rec center is probably a second choice at this time

if we want to know revamp our rec centers we can use CEO piece on

considered some recreation centers possibly but they said that it would be better collateral

AND THEN WE JUST HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE SO OUR YOUNGEST RECREATION CENTER

those who use the recreation centers pay the 1.5 million transfer to the rec activity fund

i was ecstatic to to learn about the rec center here it's got a million things it's a reasonable price

we outsource in all of our office buildings the recreation centers and the night service in the libraries

an example would be our recreation facilities we've got plenty of gyms that are private gyms in the city

you said Oh we'll need bathrooms and it's right next to the rec center right

being able to subsidize low income visits to the rec centers correct

the recreation activity fund supports the rec centers the user fees golf courses

KEEP THINGS MOVING AND OPEN UP THAT WIDEN THE POOL FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR

THANK YOU MOLLY I'LL NOW TALK ABOUT THE FIRST QUESTION THAT RELATES TO GROUND WATER CONVEYANCE SYSTEM.

I was mistaken about the the recreation centers they haven't gone in house yet

is that what led to the jump in rec center O&M operations and maintenance

PLUS POPULATION IS ACTIVELY ENGAGED BECAUSE IT'S ATTACHED TO THE RECREATION CENTER

we see like half of our pools aren't open and it's not because the pools are not you know good enough